Monday 12 April 2010

Roaming The Earth

The Tories may have abolished the fiscal recognition of marriage uniquely and in itself. They will never come back round to it, which is indicative and symptomatic of why they are now well into their final generation as a party. But they have at least re-opened the space for discussing it. If the Labour Party were true to that name, then the Labour Party would be fully in support of such recognition. Historically, that was most definitely the case.

Labour may have presided over the bargain basement global sell-off of great tracts of the British economy, including many key national assets. They will never come back round to the proper protection of British industry and business as such, including the most obvious means where the most important assets are concerned, which is indicative and symptomatic of why they are now well into their final generation as a party. But they have at least re-opened the space for discussing it. If the Conservative Party were true to that name, then the Conservative Party would be fully in support of such protection. Historically, that was most definitely the case.

And the Lib Dems have positioned themselves against both the State protection of marriage, and the State protection of jobs, national sovereignty, and cultural distinctiveness. On the first point, they are faithful to Roy Jenkins rather than to the Governments in which he served, including as Chancellor of the Exchequer. On the second, they are faithful to the means generally employed by the Liberal Party rather than to the ends that those means were intended to serve in an age when Britain had practically limitless cheap resources, vast captive markets, and command of the seas, none of which applies today. No wonder that the Lib Dems no longer even do the voters the courtesy of pretending to want to win outright.

But where is the party in favour, both of the State protection of marriage, and of the State protection of jobs, national sovereignty, and cultural distinctiveness? One is now the pro-labour logic of the Conservative position, the other is now the conservative logic of the Labour position. Neither party can any longer follow that logic, as once they would both have done axiomatically. That is why they are finished. But such are once again the terms of the debate. Who are the dinosaurs now?

12 comments:

  1. David - I'm sure you'll have seen the blogs are humming, including a couple of the biggest North East politics blogs which you no doubt follow and which you will have seen have mentioned you several times these past few weeks. The question is - when will you finally confirm your candidacy?

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  2. What are the biggest North East politics blogs?

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  3. Your guess is as good as mine. I didn't know that there were any, although of course "biggest" is a relative term while "politics" can mean any number of things.

    If there are any, then they will divide equally between "Aren't my mates/employers in the Labour Party wonderful" and "Isn't the council bloody awful in a hundred thousand different ways".

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  4. Does Ben mean a BBC one?

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  5. Quite possibly, Bill. But we really can forget any coverage from them. Take yesterday's Politics Show from Northumberland.

    It featured the sitting Labour MP for Blaydon, seeking re-election. Blaydon is not in Northumberland, or even north of the Tyne. But of the two Labour MPs in Northumberland, one is retiring and the other is Ronnie Campbell. Dave Anderson is not exactly New Labour either, but needs must.

    Next up was the candidate seeking to succeed the Tory MP for Hexham. Fair enough, although I bet that he is really a lot more right-wing than he was permitted, as much by himself as by anyone else, to appear.

    And the Lib Dem? From Berwick? No, from Wansbeck. A safe Labour seat. But one where the Labour PPC is Ian Lavery, President of the NUM and Arthur Scargill's Vicar on Earth.

    Are you starting to see the pattern?

    Anyway, back on topic, please.

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  6. If you will allow one more off topic, you got a good write up in the Northern Echo on Friday.

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  7. Yes, I've now seen it, although I haven't really been able to get about much in recent days. But it was good, yes.

    Now, in the nicest possible way, back on topic, please.

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  8. NO, you didn't. Or rather, you said you would, but in recent weeks you have been humming and hawing a bit (including where the other week for example you intimated you wouldn't stand without the remainder of funding to get you up to £10k). I was just checking if you are now definitely, defintiely, definitely standing.

    Otherwise, I'd like my £10 donation back please, as I don't really want to support the think tank.

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  9. Cue three dozen emails all saying "I am Ben and I want my tenner back". Would it have killed you to comment on an appropriate thread, even if you would have had to have scrolled down a little? I'm going to have to close this one now.

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  10. Hold on, that's serious. If you're going to hold on to Ben's money and use for it a purpose he hasn't specified and wants nothing to do with then you're brwaking electoral law.

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  11. He hasn't given a penny. I know he hasn't, and he knows how I know he hasn't.

    In any case, all monies donated have always been on the express understanding that if there were any left over at the end of this calendar year (i.e., if there were no second Election in the autumn), then it would be donated to the think tank, which by then will be a registered charity. But that is academic in Ben's case.

    This thread is closed. I hope that you are very pleased with yourselves. The sight of anything about proper politics and you go beserk with the need to get back to process, which alone interests you and which alone you can understand.

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