Monday 7 September 2009

Proper Conservatives Need A Proper Labour Party

Today's Telegraph piece, on which comments are welcome over there:

Farage. It is a new word. It means the headless chicken behaviour of those who suddenly see the serious possibility of a mainland – nay, even English! – seat electing someone from outside their cosy little club of economically and socially ultra-liberal secularists and Eurofanatics for war and against civil liberties. In recent days, there has plenty of faraging going on.

Well, good luck to Nigel Farage. Although I have never voted for UKIP, I am where half of its European voters must be politically. Add together the Tory and UKIP votes in Wales, or London, or any of the three Northern regions, or either of the two Midland regions, and you get a ludicrously high figure for the number of natural Tories living there. To cite one of many possible examples, UKIP has now topped the poll in Cornwall for the second time running. The Lib Dems hold every Commons seat in Cornwall. Half of UKIP’s vote simply must be either Old Labour or (especially in the West Country) Old Liberal rather than Old Tory. Plus any number of people like me who for whatever reason have never voted for UKIP, but who are certainly like that.

So a new movement is now required to fight for the universal and comprehensive Welfare State (including, for example, farm subsidies). For the strong statutory and other, including trade union, protection of workers, consumers, communities and the environment. For fair taxation. For full employment. For the partnership between a strong Parliament and strong local government. For co-operatives, credit unions, mutual guarantee societies, mutual building societies and similar bodies. And for every household to enjoy a base of real property from which to resist both over-mighty commercial interests and an over-mighty State.

There used to be such a movement. It was defined by Old Labour monarchism and constitutional caution. By Old Labour and Old Liberal Euroscepticism and Unionism. By Radical and Old Labour ruralism. And by Old Labour defence of the grammar schools, moral and social conservatism, economic patriotism, and foreign policy realism. Not everyone signed up to every point. But everyone accepted them as legitimate within the whole, and together they therefore set the mood, the tone.

Those strands now need to be publicly woven back together by new MPs, leading to a new party. Even if you are a diehard Tory who would never vote for such a party (although why would you vote for Cameron and Osborne instead?), you must still see the need of such a broadly-based social democratic and Distributist movement, to coalesce into a new party once in Parliament. It would be, as it used to be, one of the parliamentary and political safeguards of the Crown and the organic Constitution, of national sovereignty and the Union, of the countryside, of the grammar schools, of traditional values, of tightly controlled importation and immigration, and of a realistic foreign policy.

Indeed, the existence of this party would make possible the existence of a proper Tory party, which, faced with such a friendly rival, but rival all the same, would neither dare nor even wish to threaten welfare provision, workers’ rights, consumer protection, fair taxation, full employment, central and local government services, and co-operatives and similar enterprises. Thus, in stark contrast to governments and parties that do threaten those things, it could get on with conserving the Crown, the organic Constitution, national sovereignty, the Union, the countryside, the grammar schools, traditional values, tightly controlled importation and immigration, and a realistic foreign policy. It would be the friendly but real rival constantly checking and balancing the party of social democracy and Distributism, and constantly checked and balanced by that party. These are constitutional checks and balances as important as any other, and their destruction has been part and parcel of the general destruction of constitutionality during the New Labour years.

Unless, that is, you have no desire to conserve any of those things, and you are therefore simply not a conservative at all. In that case, by all means vote for the Heir to Blair. Or for John Bercow.

23 comments:

  1. There's a slight difference between your DT pieces and the rest of your blog, which I can't quite put my finger on...it's almost as if they've been, I don't know, tidied up somehow. And judging by your commenters, I'm not the only one who's noticed.

    I'm also waiting with bated breath for you to move away from theorising to start putting some specific policy thougths up over there - whenever you do so here there's always a jolly debate, including pointing out where you are simply factually mistaken - right up until the comments, somehow, stop appearing. Of course that won't happen over on the DT because there is no comment moderation.

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  2. There's no editorial alteration, if that's what you mean.

    And there were no such comments on my last piece, which contained plenty of policies.

    Now run along and eat some Iraqi babies or whatever it is that you people do. Those of us who were right all along are rather busy these days.

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  3. Where does Shell get published?

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  4. Where does any of them these days? Fewer and fewer places, I am pleased to say.

    But then, my editor in America is not yet thirty. How old are the remaining PNAC/AEI crowd?

    The Telegraph taking me on is also one of the many signs of its shift back, and the comments on many of its writers (especially the extremely negative ones with which neocon articles are now deluged) more than confirm that that is the readers’ view, too.

    Then there is the Daily Mail, never mind the Mail on Sunday. And the Spectator, increasingly.

    Iraq, Shell.

    Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq, Iraq.

    You were wrong. We were right. And to the victors, the spoils.

    Now, back on-topic, please.

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  5. Shell obviously realizes that a new party would have no use for a failed academic living on an inheritance. As little as the media have.

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  6. Now that's more like it! And it's a full house for: the ad hominem attack, the assumption of entirely unknown motives about commenters, the rudeness, the supportive comments that appear immediately underneath, and then to top it all off the piece de resistance of eating Iraqi babies!

    I had worried that you were losing your style somehat but no, you're stil as rude, as mad and as wrong as ever.

    PS I just don't believe you have no editorial alteration- all writers do, even - if I dare say so - considerably better and more experienced ones than you. And it's obvious for anyone who has more than a passing familiarity with your style that they have been edited, as they are considerably less turgid.

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  7. You clearly know him a lot better than I do. I just know his type.

    Anyway, that was half on-topic. So we are getting there. One more push, people.

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  8. It's a blog, Shell. I simply log on and write. Because that was what they asked me to do, just as The American Conservative did. You are entitled to your opinion, of course. But it doesn't appear to be widely shared.

    No more off-topic comments will be put up.

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  9. Brilliant stuff. No wonder you say in the comments you wish you'd never mentioned Ukip. You've set the Thatcher Pavolov's dogs off as well. They read anything and see things were much better in the 80s. Doesn't matter what the article says.

    Shell? Overprivileged unemployable. "Educated beyond his intelligence", to use one of yours. Backed the wrong side on the issue of this generation. To use another of yours, we know the type.

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  10. Thank you, of sorts. But no more about Shell, please. He's not worth it. He and his kind.

    The then-younger supporters of the Soviet Union, and of apartheid and Pinochet, may have carved up power between them, which is the problem lying behind this article.

    But there are signs, if we care to recognise them and to act on them, that the likes of Shell, the comparable younger (but not young - there are none) supporters of Bush and Blair, will have no such luck.

    As I say, we need to recognise those signs, and to act on them. That is what this article is about.

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  11. Wow you sure have beat Shell here and James there.

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  12. James is still spluttering away. But Shell seems to have given up. Neither of them has ever been told anything in his life except how clever he was.

    Then along comes someone who not only fails spontaneously to agree with whatever they say, but can quite clearly see that they are only in any position to say it becaue there were no grammar schools to fill the places that they were therefore able to steal from the children of the poor.

    They have no idea how to cope.

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  13. It's definitely not edited, there's a typo in the first paragraph.

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  14. Shell presumably blames the Telegraph subs for that. They should sue.

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  15. I note with interest your words in a comment on your Telegraph blog post: "New parties need to be rather more professional than UKIP." I agree. How is the BPA doing on that score? I reckon UKIP are ahead on all counts.

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  16. But didn't Lord Gnome predict you'd get plenty of media attention?
    http://davidaslindsay.blogspot.com/2007/07/have-no-fear.html

    I wonder who he could possibly have been.

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  17. Dunno, but it looks increasingly like he was right.

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  18. Why did Lord Gnome have the same IP address as you? Does the Telegraph know about the Martin Miller scam you attempted on the Spectator and the Guardian?

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  19. Why aren't you in the Telegraph's print edition? Nobody reads their website.

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  20. They haven't asked me yet. And based on the emails I'm getting, it's a matter of who reads it, rather than how many people.

    As for the other rubbish, I wouldn't normally allow it up, but if you knew anything about anything, then you would know that my admission to the Telegraph family tells you everything you need to know about what, if anything, that family thinks of your fantasies.

    That family includes The Spectator. As you would know. If you knew anything about anything. Why, Fraser Nelson has even commented under his own name on here, long after your imagined events allegedly took place. And, before you start, I can tell you for a fact that it was him.

    The Guardian, meanwhile, has since PAID me to write for them. I don't think their view of your babblings could be any clearer than that.

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  21. Paying someone to write something does not imply agreement with their writings. Or disagreement with their critics.

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  22. It does "imply" not believing that the person paid recently (and, if it were true, flagrantly) tried to defraud you.

    Anyway, on-topic, please.

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