Saturday, 26 January 2013

Bulwarks To That

Which privatisation did the EU prevent?

Which dock, factory, shipyard, steelworks or mine did it save?

Well, there you are, then.

I cannot see what the people who accrue to UKIP have against the EU.
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8 comments:

  1. Anonymous26 January 2013 at 23:07

    It didn't stop mines closing-but it did close thousands of small businesses, buried beneath an avelanche of the left-wing regulations Delors first promised the TUC.

    You don't know anything about the Right, or about the EU, and the ECHR.

    It's a socialist-corporatist project that fulfils the function that the US Supreme Court fulfils in America-enabling the Left to impose laws on people, that they could never get past the electorate.

    And enabling big business to kill off small business with socialist regulations.

    Who would ever have voted for mass immigration or laws that prevent us deporting terrorists because they have a "right to a family"?

    Who would ever have voted for Human Rights laws that take away freedom of the press, and impose abortion on free countries, or for regulations that close businesses every week?

    If you think being Right-wing just means being pro-privatisation (and not for national independence, and against mass immigration, human rights and the destruction of small business) then you don't know an awful lot about the Right.

    Enoch Powell didn't oppose the EU because he feared it would save the mines-but because he knew it would take away our national independence.

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  2. David Lindsay26 January 2013 at 23:11

    The Loony Right, indeed.

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  3. Anonymous26 January 2013 at 23:14

    The Loony Left indeed.

    You lot are in power through the EU-I've no idea what your complaining about.

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  4. David Lindsay26 January 2013 at 23:19

    No, I was wrong. Quite beyond the Loony Right.

    Oh, well, down four points in a week based on one indifferent speech by David Cameron, of all people.

    So nothing to worry about in the long term.

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  5. James26 January 2013 at 23:28

    I'd like to say I thought he was a spoof, but I know his type too well for that.

    Enforcing privatisation, imposing juntas of technocrats on countries that are not austere enough, increasingly submerging itself in a Nato that is rapidly becoming out of control, subverting states' Christian identities, you are right that the British Right after Thatcher should love the EU. She did.

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  6. Anonymous26 January 2013 at 23:32

    James thinks the Right supports destruction of national sovereignty, human rights laws and mass immigration.

    That's news to everybody on the Right.

    He also thinks Thatcher "loved" the EU.

    That's news to the people who sacked her for speaking out against it.

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  7. David Lindsay26 January 2013 at 23:47

    James thinks the Right supports destruction of national sovereignty, human rights laws and mass immigration. That's news to everybody on the Right.

    No, it isn't. It just news to you. It's not news to the CBI, for example. It has not been news to every Conservative Government since the 1950s, either. On all three points, in fact.

    He also thinks Thatcher "loved" the EU. That's news to the people who sacked her for speaking out against it.

    She did. And they didn't. She was going to lose them a General Election with the Poll Tax, and in any case she had already started to go funny in the head (also why Wilson resigned - the trend is worth investigating) and they no longer found her act entertaining. They wanted Heseltine's end-of-the-pier turn instead. They didn't get it, at least not in Number 10. But that is another story.

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  8. James26 January 2013 at 23:55

    We know he is not a Peter Hitchens reader who pays any attention but he is a David Lindsay reader who pays any attention? He cannot see the connection between making proper use of our coal reserves and being an independent nation. That'll be a no then.

    He is not Old Right at all in that case, it is also a Hitchens point and one that Jimmy Goldsmith used to make. References to Enoch, but his line about Thatcher springs to mind: "If she thought she was influenced by me she can't have understood what I was saying."

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