Wednesday 3 June 2009

Gibson vs Gould?

Who is Labour going to impose on the constituencies of Elliot Morley, Margaret Moran, David Chaytor and Ian Gibson? We can no doubt guess the type, even if not the individuals.

Norwich North may be a bit marginal for Georgia Gould, like a seat in either Bury or Luton. She seems more likely to be given Scunthorpe. Fill in the blank: "Georgia Gould, Putting The .... Into Scunthorpe".

But I hope that she is put up in Dr Gibson's constituency. I cannot for the life of me see what he is supposed to have done wrong. And he would beat her hands down.

There is also talk of his suing the Labour Party. Very good luck to him, say I.

11 comments:

  1. Dr Gibsons crime was to be independently minded and anti war. His "expenses" crime seems a lot less than.........say......Hazel Blears.
    Of course ANYBODY imposed on Scunthorpe, Bury North and Luton South would necessarily be better than the current honourable member.
    "Imposed" is of course a loaded term. The high tide of (southern) political advisors being parachuted into safe (northern)seats has probably passed.
    That unpleasant Welsh incident at the last election probably marked the turning point.
    The good folks of Burnley, Hartlepool and other places familiar on our football coupons deserve to be represented by people (local or otherwise) who are attuned to local interests.

    Which is I suspect why Hazel Blears is so despised in Salford. She acted in a very "un-Salford" manner.

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  2. "Dr Gibsons crime was to be independently minded and anti war"

    Quite so.

    ""Imposed" is of course a loaded term"

    It is the technical term for a procedure within the Constitution and Rules of the Labour Party.

    "The high tide of (southern) political advisors being parachuted into safe (northern)seats has probably passed"

    If only!

    "That unpleasant Welsh incident at the last election probably marked the turning point"

    Not a bit of it.

    "She acted in a very "un-Salford" manner"

    How so? And who says that she is "despised" there?

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  3. Oh..she is hardly Salfords favourite daughter.
    Salford values may be defined by Wetherfield values as shown three nights a week on Coronation Street.

    The pub (The Rovers Return) being pivotal as the name implies (in fact is designed deliberately) that people get a come-uppance when deviating from community values.

    Hazel Blears has done exactly that. Just like Ken Barlow with the woman on the boat.

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  4. The Rovers is hilarious. The entire Street spends all of every evening in there. And an entire factory of machinists has lunch - LUNCH! - there every day, before heading off back to the machines for the afternoon.

    Still, you can understand how Coronation Street is basically set in the Sixties. After all, it started in the Sixties. It is how EastEnders has come to be so that I don't quite get.

    Anyway, back on topic.

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  5. well......you DID ASK

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  6. Her own .... as in Scunthorpe has done her proud. Let's just say Nicky Blair and leave it at that. Her seat has not always been so safe.

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  7. Are you lot bonkers? His crime was to make the taxpayer pay all the living costs of his ADULT daughter AND her partner - for years. He admitted it on BBC Look East right at the start, despite backtracking since. This may make him "independently minded" but maybe you should all reconsider why he also voted against reform of the second homes allowance and to prevent details of MPs' expenses being revealed under the Freedom Of Information Act. Strike you as the actions of someone who knew they had nothing to hide on that particular subject? Is ripping off the ordinary working taxpayer really the act of a committed socialist?

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  8. His daughter and her partner lived in his house, that's all. He did not "make the taxpayer pay all their living costs".

    And then he sold her the house for what he considered was a fair price. No matter what that price had been, he would have kept the money.

    Would you rather that she and her partner had taken someone's place on the waiting list for a council house?

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  9. In my opinion, there was much worse going on in parliament - I've not heard that Gibson was playing the property market, for example.

    I hope he stands for re-election as an independent or with another party.

    I'm sceptical about Blears' politics - on Newsnight recently she told Bob Crow he was a purist for being opposed to privatising the Tyne and Wear Metro and calling for renationalisation of the railways.

    But I feel you might be onto something. Recall that Blears said she should have paid tax and coughed up the cash for HMRC.

    Purnell has resigned, but he's not paid back any money.

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  10. Um, well, all their utility bills & council tax were paid by the taxpayer; they paid no rent, then profited some more from a knock-down price. I wonder if Ian Gibson would have been quite so generous had it been his own money that had paid the mortgage, and as far as I can gather, no capital gains tax was paid either.

    What else could you call this other than the taxpayer being made to pay for the full-time upkeep of an MPs' adult child and her partner? They lived there for far more days per week than Ian Gibson and for many more weeks a year, after all. The public weren't exactly consulted about their willingness to provide for adult non-dependent family members of MPs either, and if it weren't for the Telegraph we'd all still be blissfully unaware of the whole thing.

    And I seriously doubt that Ian Gibson's daughter who has apparently been working in the political sphere as a lobbyist would either require or be willing to live in a council property -
    but if conspiracy theories make you feel more comfortable, you'll no doubt prefer to carry on blaming his deselection on his independence....

    Meanwhile I'll continue to question why Ian Gibson's daughter and her partner couldn't be as independent as he apparently is, instead of choosing to live for years as covert dependents of the taxpayer.

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  11. "a purist for being opposed to privatising the Tyne and Wear Metro and calling for renationalisation of the railways"

    And why not?

    "Um, well, all their utility bills & council tax were paid by the taxpayer"

    They would have been anyway on that property.

    "they paid no rent"

    A lot of people don't charge their adult children rent. Not something from which I have ever benefited, but Saint Helenians do these things differently.

    You can't even get Housing Benefit if a relative owns the house. Not even if the relative lives elsewhere.

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