Wednesday 2 February 2011

Beyond Question

When William McCrea of the DUP stood up at PMQs to demand that the Government stop placing Northern Ireland at what he saw as a competitive disadvantage compared to the Irish Republic "that Britain has recently bailed out", David Cameron did not give him the assurance that he sought, but also did not question that Britain had now bought back the 26 Counties lock, stock and barrel and would be making full use of that position of ownership in future.

After all, who could possibly question what are now those simple facts of the matter? The Crown Steward and Bailiff of the Manor of Northwood? Hardly! It looks as if, as last year, the "dissident Republicans" are not going to contest West Belfast. If they fail, not only to contest it, but to win it, then Irish Nationalism will incontrovertibly have ceased to exist as a serious political force on either side of the Border.

David Cameron also congratulated Plaid Cymru's Elfyn Llwyd on his having been sworn of the Privy Council, the Oath that precludes Alex Salmond from making the slightest effort to pursue Scottish independence, and the Privy Council on which Llywd joins Dafydd Elis-Thomas, once known as "the Meirionnydd Marxist", but now an active member of the House of Lords of many years' standing. Llywd used his party's 2007 Party Conference to call on Plaid Cymru members to nominate candidates for peerages. And why not?

14 comments:

  1. "the Oath that precludes Alex Slamond from making the slightest effort to pursue Scottish independence"

    Eh? Having looked at the oath, I do not see anything that prevents him from doing so.

    And of course talking of breaking oaths, is not the capital of the USA named after a man who took an oath to and recieved a commission from the British crown?

    Colonel George Washington - as a diehard imperialist I doubt you recognise neither his title of general or later president.

    Now stamp up and down in anger, that is it.

    What about peoples who not only took oaths allegiance to the Crown and even knighthoods but later declared their nations republics. Such as the Presidents of Mauritius Sir Veerasamy Ringadooa and Sir Anerood Jugnauth who is a member of the UK Privy Council and has been since 1983 not to mention his oath to her as a QC.

    Should "Sir" Anerood be arrested for his treason against the Queen and flown by gunship to serve the rest of his days in a rate-infested hole being whipped every few days at a military installation in the South Atlantic territories. Should he chained to the wall along with that Manx minister who is a member of the Manx equivalent of the Privy Council.

    We need to know! We need to know!

    Scotophobe.

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  2. It is clearly Salmond's view. Good for him that he takes the Oath seriously. Not everyone has always done so.

    Unless you can think of another reason. Perhaps he could not cope with the humiliation of putting the straight question of independence - not a protest against the local Labour Party or what have you - directly to the vote, a very different matter from answering an opinion poll, and seeing it take ... well, what? Twenty per cent? Fifteen? Ten? Less than ten?

    As much as anything else, what then would be the point of the SNP?

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  3. Plaid Cymru peers?

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  4. Interesting blog. It would be great if you can provide more details about it. Thanks you

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  5. Sassy, what do you need to know?

    Anonymous, the rural Radicalism that mostly died of neglect in England after the First World War, but which lived on in Wales; and the Welsh peace tradition. Plus, evidently, a bulwark of the Union, officially or otherwise.

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  6. How is it Salmond's view. Are you telepathic or something. Again, what section of the oath?

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  7. Ask him.

    Again, I admit that there might be some other reason. But there is obviously a reason.

    Based on what turns out to have been the case about lockerbie after all, maybe he is a spook? Maybe everyone of any real influence in the SNP is?

    After all, upper-class people throughout this Island have particular cause to cherish the Union, and they do. MI5 is a bit mid-market to hold such views these days. But MI6 certainly isn't.

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  8. Going down the conspiracy theory route are we?

    What upper class people?

    Salmond himself is the son of two civil servants and was raised in a council house in Linlithgow.

    Jim Sillars the fireman and former navy guy?

    Nicola Sturgeon from the Irvine council estate to the Govan Law centre?

    What are you jabbering on about man!

    But then you do not know who the orginal Don Roberto was, do you? When you find out, you will be unhappy------

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  9. Classic backgrounds of the handled rather than the handlers. "Conspiracy"? What a charmingly simple world you must inhabit.

    For my money, not only has the SNP long, long, long been riddled with spooks as such thing always are, mostly to stop them from getting anywhere but thereafter to ensure that British interests would be protected even if they ever did (numerous Commonwealth and other countries are still run largely or entirely like that - look closely at both Mubarak's NDP and the Muslim Brotherhood), but the sort of people who control these activities identified the SNP as their bulwark in permanently post-Tory Scotland after the Lib-Lab land redistribution legislation.

    Alex Salmond is far too clever not to have worked out all of this. To say the very least.

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  10. Naturally everyone can see what Salmond and his party are, like everyone can see what FF and FG are in Ireland. As you always say about FF and FG voters, they must be voting for them on that understanding. Same goes for the SNP. So is there really any need to spell it out on the Internet?

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  11. Ah, back to sock puppeteering again!

    Pah, pathetic.

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  12. Who? If you mean that comment at 16:28, it makes a very good point which I see that you cannot answer.

    Who did you THINK that the SNP top brass and their string-pullers were? British interests will be protected even in the (in Scotland's case, extremely improbable) event of independence. Just look at ... well, it's a very long list.

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  13. Outing Sharon as Mossad, even though everbody already knew it, was in a good cause but outing Salmond as MI6, even though everybody already knew it, is just cheap.

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  14. "Outing Sharon ... even though everbody already knew it"? Is that really what you intended to write?

    On topic, please.

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