Two comments claiming that yes, of course David Miliband speaks in Cabinet. One even claims that he recently updated that body on the situation in South Ossetia.
The idea that Milly has ever heard of South Ossetia, even now, is so preposterous as to be unworthy of a response. And can you name anyone else in the Cabinet who has to take along one of his or her Ministers of State, neither an MP nor even a Labour Party member but with vast experience in the field, to hold his or her hand? Well, there you are then.
Some Labour MP had to be found who could pretend to be Foreign Secretary, in order to keep the Labour Party sweet. But even in politics, there are not very many people with quite that combination of idiocy, indolence, vanity and venality. In fact, there is probably only one at any given time. Step forward, David Miliband.
That's your response? That, in all seriousness, you are claiming that the Foreign Sec has never heard of South Ossetia? Don't be so stupid. You can claim he is young, unqualified, whatever. But when you can quite easily google him speaking and saying the words, and speaking the situation, means you must be wrong. You're just being stupid.
ReplyDelete"We can argue about the history of South Ossetia. We can argue about who fired first in early August. There are serious allegations levelled against South Ossetians and Georgians: it is right that these are independently investigated.
ReplyDeleteBut what Russia has done goes far beyond the bounds of peacekeeping."
David Miliband, 27th August 2008
I don't want a comment on whether he is right or wrong. But will you agree that, given he MENTIONED IT SPECIFICALLY IN A SPEECH, the odds are he has heard of it?
Think of it like Peter Hitchens's suggestion a couple of months ago that Jacqui Smith was regularly stopped by security guards who did not believe that she was the Home Secretary.
ReplyDeleteThe fact that you two and several other (personally abusive) people have leapt to his defence on this, hardly the most serious point in the post, within hlaf an hour of my having posted, indicates that, deep down, you suspect that it might be true. Why? Do tell.
The real point is this: unlike any other Cabinet Minister, never mind anyone else of comparable seniority in theory, Miliband has to suffer the indignity that Brown has invited along to Cabinet a Minister of State in his Department, a man of vast foreign policy experience, though not of House of Commons or Labour Party experience, since he has never been a member of either.
There can simply be no doubt at all which of them is the real Foreign Secretary, but the position must nominally be held by a (nominally) Labour (nominal) MP, in order to keep the Labour Party sweet.
Miliband is so idiotic, so indolent, so vain and so venal that he puts up with this state of affairs. No one else would, because no one is else is quite that idiotic, quite that indolent, quite that vain or quite that venal.
If he ever did become the occupant of 10 Downing Street, then who would be the real Prime Minister, and why? The answer to that question is of considerable importance at the present time.
"indicates that, deep down, you suspect that it might be true."
ReplyDeleteNo - it indicates that it is an insanely preposterous suggestion, with absolutely nothing to back it up. By contrast, we have had someone on a previous post claim that he has personally seen the Foreign Secretary speak in Cabinet, and a poster at 19.26 here proving that (as if it were ever seriously in doubt) that he knows about South Ossetia.
I mean really David. You may not like David Miliband. You may object to people who are not Labour party members holding junior Ministerial office. But making stupid wild accusations that have absolutely no claim in fact make you, rather than the other David, look just a little bit
A little bit what? Do tell.
ReplyDelete"A little bit what? Do tell"
ReplyDeleteI've no idea what the original commenter meant to write, but I'd suggest:
- a little bit silly
- a little bit paranoid
- a little bit ridiculous
- a little bit tin foil hat crazy
for starters
No, no, Sol. He was talking about me, not Milly.
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