Tom Piatak writes:
If I had to live in the Middle East, I would want to live in Israel, a modern, democratic country with a productive economy, including a burgeoning high-tech sector, and a rich cultural and intellectual life. There is much to admire in Israel, a dynamic and prosperous nation created in part by survivors of the Holocaust. If I were an Israeli, I probably would have supported the recent invasion of Gaza, which was preceded by hundreds of Hamas rockets being shot into Israel. So why, the estimable Ilana Mercer wonders, don’t more paleoconservatives show enthusiasm for the way the American alliance with Israel has developed, with some even expressing concerns about the Israeli operation in Gaza?
One reason is that, owing to America’s longtime financial and military support for Israel, including providing Israel with the weapons used to subdue Gaza and with more foreign aid than we give to any other country, America is often blamed in the Islamic world for the actions of Israel. When Islamists inevitably seek to avenge Gaza, they might try to kill Americans as well as Israelis, although Hamas itself has never attacked American targets. It is therefore reasonable for Americans to be concerned over the fallout from Israeli use of force against Arabs. Indeed, serious arguments have been made both that our attachment to Israel helped fuel the hatred that found murderous expression on 9/11, and that our invasion of Iraq was prompted in part by a belief that destoying Saddam Hussein’s regime would benefit Israel. At the very least, our close ties with Israel complicate our relations with the countries that control the only item of vital importance to the United States in the Middle East, oil. America pays a high price for our unquestioning support of Israel.
Israel has benefited greatly from the military, economic, and diplomatic support of the United States. Indeed, Richard Nixon’s airlift to Israel during the 1973 war arguably saved Israel from being overrun by the Arab armies attacking her. Although advocates of our unswerving support for Israel like to say that in return Israel has been America’s closest ally, it is hard to find the evidence for that assertion. Since the creation of Israel in 1948, America has fought four major wars alongside our allies, the Korean War, the Vietnam War, the First Gulf War, and the Second Gulf War, including the invasion of Afghanistan. Great Britain fought at our side in each of these wars except Vietnam, sending 63,000 troops to Korea, 43,000 troops to the Persian Gulf in the First Gulf War, and 45,000 troops to Iraq in the Second Gulf War. Australia has fought at our side during each of these wars, sending 17,000 troops to Korea, nearly 50,000 troops to Vietnam, 1,800 troops to the Persian Gulf in the First Gulf War, and 2,000 troops to Iraq in the Second Gulf War. Currently, there are 8,745 British and 1,050 Australian troops deployed in Afghanistan, and an Australian serving in Afghanistan just won the Victoria Cross. The British and Australian politicians who committed their troops to fight at our side have sometimes paid a significant political price: Tony Blair essentially lost control of his party over Iraq, and opposition to Australian involvement in Vietnam helped propel the Australian Labor Party to its first electoral victory.
Other countries, too, have sometimes made surprisingly large contributions to our war efforts: nearly 5,000 South Korean troops were killed and over 10,000 were wounded fighting at our side in Vietnam. The number of troops Israel sent to Korea, Vietnam, the First Gulf War, and the Second Gulf War is zero. Of course, it is not surprising that Israel was not part of either coalition America assembled in the Gulf, since Israeli involvement in either Gulf War would have been disastrous, undermining our efforts to recruit Arab and Moslem allies and aiding the Islamists in their efforts to recruit new people to kill Americans.
Even worse, the Israelis have sometimes repaid American support with arrogance and contempt. Recently, Ehud Olmert boasted of how he telephoned George Bush in the middle of a speech and told him to instruct Condoleeza Rice to have the United States abstain from voting on a Security Council resolution we had helped draft. In the ‘90s and into this decade, Israel sold sensitive military technology to Red China, and in the ‘80s Israel recruited Jonathan Pollard to spy against us, with some of the information Pollard stole from us quite likely ending up in the hands of the Soviet Union. At first, Israel denied any involvement with Pollard, but Israel eventually admitted that Pollard was in fact an Israeli agent, not a rogue operative, even though Israel has ignored our requests to account for everything Pollard took. In a way, though, it is hard to blame the Israelis for their contempt for American politicians. In 1967, Israeli airmen and sailors killed 33 American sailors and one civilian during the attack on the USS Liberty, and wounded another 171 American sailors. Even though the Secretary of State, the CIA Director, and many at the National Security Agency all believed the Israeli attack on the Liberty was deliberate, not a mistake, a view confirmed, according to a 2007 Chicago Tribune article, by several former American military and intelligence personnel who had access to NSA intercepts of communications to the Israeli pilots attacking the Liberty, Israel paid no political price. Indeed, Washington ordered the recall of planes sent by the USS America to defend the Liberty, and none of the citations awarded the survivors of the Liberty, including the Medal of Honor won by her captain, even mentioned the identity of the nation that attacked the ship. It is hard not to have contempt for America when we behave like that.
Unfortunately, paleoconservatives are almost the only ones on the right who seem willing to voice concerns about such affronts to American honor from Israel. During the 2008 campaign, at a forum sponsored by a pro-Israel group, veteran Democratic operative Ann Lewis, who was advising Hillary Clinton, disagreed with an Obama adviser who had suggested that the United States might wish to distance itself from certain policies of Israel’s Likud party: “The role of the president of the United States is to support the decisions that are made by the people of Israel. It is not up to us to pick and choose from among the political parties.” Lewis was applauded by those in attendance, and the representative of the McCain campaign at the forum did not criticize Lewis for suggesting that the role of the president is to act as a rubber stamp for the Knesset.
Most American conservatives seem incapable of offering anything except the most tepid criticism of Israel or her zealous supporters. NRO was silent about Olmert’s recent outburst, and I do not recall much criticism of Ann Lewis’ strange interpretation of Article II of the Constitution on the right. Deroy Murdock criticized the effort to secure the release of Jonathan Pollard because it “foolishly reinforces the anti-Semitic stereotype that American Jews share dual loyalties between the United States and Israel,” and Jonah Goldberg opposed Pollard’s release, which was being demanded by the Israel government, because “Pollard disgraced himself, America, and Israel by spying on the US,” which is rather like saying that the reason Alger Hiss deserved to be imprisoned was because he disgraced the USSR. Of course, the real reason to oppose releasing Pollard has nothing to do with stereotypes or the disgrace he brought on Israel. Pollard should not be released because he betrayed America and compromised our national security at the behest of a foreign power, namely Israel.
The refusal to criticize behavior that would be criticized if engaged in by any other country is just one sign that America has formed the type of “passionate attachment” to Israel that our first and greatest president warned against in his Farewell Address. Indeed, Fred Barnes recently wrote in the Weekly Standard that one of Bush’s greatest achievements was that he surpassed Ronald Reagan as being “Israel’s best friend in the White House.” I suspect millions of Americans who support Israel and view the Farewell Address as a dead letter would agree with Barnes about that. And, as Americans, they have every right to that belief. But Ilana Mercer should not expect paleoconservatives, who tend to take seriously the Founders’ prescriptions for foreign policy, and who are generally wary of foreign influence and foreign entanglements, to be among those praising American politicians for uncritical support of any foreign country, even Israel.
I question Tom Piatak's theories including his view that the US acts as a rubber stamp of Israeli policy. In fact, the US is far more critical of Israel's policies over the years than it has of other US allies. So far as I know, there was all but silence regarding Britain's Northern Ireland policy notwithstanding substantial disagreement with it in some corners.
ReplyDeleteFurther, the notion that Israel has not provided substantial benefit to the US in exchange for aid is wrong. First, the aid goes primarily to the purchase of weapons made by US manufacturers, meaning that it is a backhanded way of providing welfare to American industry. Second, the Israelis have provided substantial intelligence information to the US about, among other places, Iran. Moreover, had the US listened to Israeli intelligence assessments about Iraq, that war might have been avoided. In this regard, it is worth noting that, of all the world's spy agencies, only the Israeli Mossad raised serious questions about Saddam's WMD programs. Such was reported, before the war, in Haaretz.
Lastly, there is the point that the US stands for democracy. As the author of the piece says, Israel is a democracy - and a vibrant one at that. So, to stand against a vibrant democracy is to do something out of character in US history, where George Washington said that the US is the friend of liberty everywhere and the steward only in the US. So, we are friends with democratic states and that is what any conservative or liberal American worth his or her salt believes.
"So far as I know, there was all but silence regarding Britain's Northern Ireland policy"
ReplyDeleteI stopped reading at that point. You clearly have no idea about the level of (wholly ignorant) American bullying and interference that brought Northern Ireland to where it is now: carved up between a bizarre fundamentalist sect and fully armed, highly active Marxist terrorist organisation; with the inhabitants of many areas living in fear of the ruling local paramilitary drug-dealers and pimps; and in the mind-boggling position that, should certain conditions be met, the United Kingdom is obliged by treaty to hand it over to a neighbouring state which, by referendum, has renounced any claim to it, since next to no one there wants it.
But their distant cousins in Boston and New York want them to want it. And only they really matter.
David,
ReplyDeleteGiven that Britain's policy was rather unpopular with Irish Americans, the amount of complaints from the US government were very minimal. And, compared with complaints about Israel by the US, complaints about Britain's Northern Ireland policy were all but non-existent.
It seems to me that, in the scheme of things, the Israelis are a very good ally of the US, as good as the British.
"complaints about Britain's Northern Ireland policy were all but non-existent"
ReplyDeleteThat simply isn't true at all.
"the Israelis are a very good ally of the US"
How? Like the (constitutionally neutral, so never even in NATO) Irish Republic, what have they ever actually done for you?
Israel is a good ally of the US. Among other things, Israel is a good ally by providing the US with the benefit of the data obtained by its unparalleled spy agency. Moreover, the Israelis provide the US greater stability among the various countries that immediately surround Israel but which, due to Israel, no longer fight with each other.
ReplyDeleteMost of all, Israel is a good ally of the US because Israel is a democracy. Israel embodies the best American virtues, including its pioneering immigrant spirit. I understand that such is difficult for a person in a conservative European environment to understand.
Further, Israel can pursue American policy in places the US has no connection or, for other reasons, cannot go. For example, Israel supplies third parties with military and technical and other assistance that the US does not want out in the open. Israel's multi-billion dollar military connections with India come to mind.
"Among other things, Israel is a good ally by providing the US with the benefit of the data obtained by its unparalleled spy agency"
ReplyDeleteThe one that spies on America.
"Moreover, the Israelis provide the US greater stability among the various countries that immediately surround Israel but which, due to Israel, no longer fight with each other"
There's a lot of truth in that, I suppose. Although quite why America would care if they fought each other, I cannot see. America can buy oil from whoever happens to have it. Or become energy-independent, of course...
"Israel embodies the best American virtues"
Well, Israel is historically Keynesian and has an enormous Welfare State, I suppose. Like America in that regard. But Israel is also an extremely secular, socially liberal place, much further removed from Middle America than is anywhere in, so to speak, Middle Europe.
There is nothing remotely "pioneering" about Israel, a bottomless pit for American money, money for which not the slightest gratitude is ever expressed. As for democracy, Israel is not exactly much of advertisement. And anyway, so what? Another country's interest is in what a country's government does or does not do, not in how it got there.
"Israel's multi-billion dollar military connections with India come to mind"
Those are ultimately their own interests, not yours. You should return the compliment to them. As should we, both to them and to you.
You write: "There is nothing remotely 'pioneering' about Israel..."
ReplyDeleteWell, this is one thing that Americans of all stripes see differently than you. Building a country from scratch, on land that was a backwater of the Ottoman Empire and even Greater Syria is pioneering, whether you admit to it or not. At this point, Israel does not need US aid. But, such advantages US manufacturers so it continues.
So far as democracy is concerned, George Washington said that America is the friend of democracy everywhere. Israel is a true democracy residing in a lawless part of the world. Given the lawless region where it is situated, Israel's behavior is exemplary and it is seen as such by Americans of all political stripes. Were American to turn its back on Israel, such would be a dark day for those who believe in democracy and a day on which the enemies of democracy would celebrate.
The rest of what you write is your opinion. Unlike you, though, I am an American. So, my gut reaction of what benefits Americans tells us more about what Americans see as their interest than what you write.
Even seventy per cent of American Jews have just elected a President with a recent history of pro-Palestinian activism. Rahm Emanuel's acceptance of his job makes it clear that he is unambiguously American rather than Israeli after all. He could not otherwise serve under Obama.
ReplyDeleteAnd how you describe pre-Zionist Palestine is pure, and perfectly racist, propaganda, bearing no resemblance whatever to historical reality.
Thank God that a Maronite has just been put in charge by Obama. Irish name. But Arab church. And Arab blood.
David,
ReplyDeleteI know quite a number of Maronites. In fact, my wife's business partner is a Maronite. Maronites tend, at least in the US, to be rather pro-Israel. They, as their Maronite relatives in the Middle East, tend to hold out against the Islamization of the region. To such people, Israel is an example of standing against the tide.
Obama's connections are rather fundamentally misunderstood by you. His formative associations were mostly Jewish, as have been most of his very close friends. That is one reason why his chief of staff is Jewish - since it is in considerable part due to Rahm Emanuel that Obama was able to rise in the Democratic party - and why a far greater number of his advisers than those of Bush are Jewish.
Obama did have some minor contacts with some backers of the Palestinian Arabs. However, his main backers - the people who made it possible for him to enter the national stage - are made up almost exclusively of Jews. In fact, his formative associations are more Jewish than probably any president in history. And, in this case, they are not only Jewish but known supporters of Israel. So, I think you have your facts wrong.
Consider, further, that Israel is among the favorite foreign countries of most Americans. That includes, most especially, the devout Christians supporters of Israel - roughly 80 million people. Were Obama to turn on Israel, it would be effectively the end of his presidency and the demise of the Democrats. So, if, in fact, he were really not a friend of Israel, he would be forced to be one.
Oh, if we are on to the Christian Zionists, then the politest thing that can be said about them is that they have no idea what they are talking about, and that if you don't believe me then ask any serious Evangelical theologian.
ReplyDeleteAnd I am not convinced that there are anything like eighty million of them. Even if there were, they didn't vote for Obama, nor will they in 2012, no matter what.
It is pretty much a generation since a section of the Maronites in Lebanon (though not in Palestine or Syria, where they also exist) found it expedient, on a "my enemy's enemy" basis, to side with Israel under a particular circumstance which no longer obtains. Israel's treatment of Lebanon since then will have put paid to that. Those pioneers of Arabism are back on side.
Obama's Jewish supporters probably aren't terribly pro-Israel. I see very little eveidence that many american Jews are, really, deep down. Certainly not compared to the Christian Zionists. Obama, who had beaten AIPAC's candidate for the Democratic nomination, still managed to take seventy per cent of the Jewish vote. They liked Israel when it was Labor-run. A long ago, and not likely to come back any time soon.
Obama has given Middle East peace policy to a man steeped in the Christian tradition of the Levant, the tradition that created Arabism specifically as a force against political Islam, and which maintained it as a force against Zionism as well. Its adherents have suffered most at the hands of the Islamists and the Zionists alike. And now, it seems, it's payback time.
Nothing could more delight the old American Jewish believers in the old Zionist Socialist dream, so very far removed as it is, and is going to remain, from today's Israel.
Mr. Lindsay,
ReplyDeleteWell, Christian Zionists may or may not understand their religion correctly. But, that they are an important constituency in both major political parties, Democrats and Republicans, is a fact. And, the 80 million figure is one that is commonly sited in the US. But, even if the number were only 50 million, no candidate can ignore them.
As for their religious views, they date back to before the founding of the USA, to the likes of Cotton Mather - a restorationist. Among those who have espoused such form of Christianity are Abraham Lincoln, Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Rooselvelt - who, interestingly, believed that Arabs should be removed entirely from historic Palestine -, Harry Truman and Lyndon Johnson. There are more well known names including quite a number of other presidents, but those above mentioned are all well known names to foreigners while their religious beliefs regarding the Jewish homeland are well documented.
Again, there is no remote possibility that Obama will turn against Israel. And, his lead supporters and sources of money include supporters of the Likud. Again, I suggest that you do your homework more carefully.
Your comments about the views of Jews toward Israel are ignorant. American Jews want the dispute to be settled, which is different from saying that they do not stand with Israel - just as every ethnic group in the US supports those under attack in their homelands.
A Democrat running for president but hostile to Israel will receive a rather small number of Jewish votes - say 1% - when to win, he or she needs to at least win the majority of the Jewish vote and, if at all possible, a large majority. Otherwise, the candidate can kiss goodbye New York, New Jersey, Florida, among other states.
Obama won 77% of the Jewish vote. Jews are among the, if not the, best educated Americans. Do you really think they are stupid enough to vote for a person who was not sufficiently vetted, vouchsafed by people with inside information? Come on, David. You have no idea what you are saying here.
Obama beat the AIPAC candidate for the nomination, and, if anything, his very high showing among Jews illustrates how many of them do not feel that AIPAC speaks for them.
ReplyDeleteObama proved that you can run against the Israel Lobby, first in the Democratic primaries and then in the Presidential election itself, and still win, both overall and specifically among Jews.
And why not? In what sense is Israel the "homeland" of American Jews? They should have no homeland but America, and they should be hugely offended if anyone ever suggested that they had. The voting figures for Obama suggest most strongly that that is indeed the case.
After all, they have far less connection with Israel than Irish-Americans have with Ireland, or Italian-Americans have with Italy. And even that is not very much these days. There are in any case a million more Arabs, and vastly more Muslims, than Jews in America. And they have votes, too.
Most Jews are core Democrats whom there is no particular electoral need to reach. They may have liked Israel when she was extremely left-wing economically. But I doubt that they like her too much now.
This "all ethnic groups campaign for their homelands" business is in fact extremely selective. Quite apart from whether it ought to happen at all, where is the German lobby, or the Scandinavian lobby, or the English lobby, or the Scots-Irish lobby?
Over half of observant American Jews are Conservative. Conservative Judaism, like Reform Judaism, is not recognised in any way by the State of Israel. Conservative Jewish organisations may be particularly Zionist. But Conservative Jews at the polls are clearly a different matter.
Your figure for the number of Christian Zionists only works by counting all Evangelicals as such. That is simply not the case at all. Even if it were, that wouldn't be a reason for pandering to it, an abrogation of political responsibility.
And just as most American Jews either would not or do not like what Israel has become economically, so most Evangelicals either would or do utterly detest what Israel has always been socially and culturally.
Taken together, however, those are precisely the reasons why the neocons (most of whom are not Jewish, just as most Jews are not neocons) so adore Israel. But, praise be, the neocons lost the election.
Obama, according to you, beat the AIPAC candidate - but then, very strangely (and not noted by you), appointed the AIPAC candidate Secretary of State. So, on your view, Mrs. Clinton must have also changed her views to be one that is less supportive of Israel. The same for Rahm Emanuel - a man you think has somehow acted wrong by helping his brethren in Israel, just like Irish Americans have helped their Irish brethren in Ireland. The same for Obama's pro-Israel strategist David Axelrod - the guy who is Obama's chief strategist and adviser, by the way.
ReplyDeleteDo you actually do any investigation of facts before you opine?
Another problem with your view is that one looks in vein in the US to find people supportive of Palestinian Arabs. Polling suggests that supporting Arab causes is unpopular, whatever the rest of the world may think.
On top of that, what would be in it for the US to side against Israel? Arabs sell their oil to the US no matter what. They learned their lesson in the Arab oil Embargo when the US, unlike your European brethren, stood up to the Arabs and reminded them that if no oil was sold to the US, Arabs would starve.
And, it would drive Israel into the hands of the Chinese or, perhaps, the Russians. How would that help the US, having Israel undermine US policy? In other words, the US would be crazy to do so.
Your country has placed itself at the mercy of Arab whim. The US is not prepared to do any such thing, whether the president would be Obama or a hawk. The US does not have an angry Arab or Muslim population that attempts to force its will on the US government. Arabs in the US are mostly Christian - refugees from Muslim Arab oppression. That is why they came here. Most of them may not be great lovers of Israel but most Arabs American have little use for the oppression meted out by Muslim Arabs. I know that from first hand information.
Regarding support for one's group, German Americans, in fact, tend to be partial towards Germany. That was a big problem for President Roosevelt, since German Americans tended, in WWII, to hold sympathies for their homeland. Irish Americans are unswerving in their support for their Irish brethren. Likewise Cuban Americans. Likewise French Americans. In fact, were Jews not to be supportive of Israel, they would be thought of as strange, since supporting one's brethren is considered normal.
I think you need to learn a lot more about the US because a lot of your views are remarkably misinformed.
"Obama, according to you, beat the AIPAC candidate - but then, very strangely (and not noted by you), appointed the AIPAC candidate Secretary of State. So, on your view, Mrs. Clinton must have also changed her views to be one that is less supportive of Israel."
ReplyDeleteI have "noted" it many times on here. Obama's appointment of a mercifully defeated, AIPAC-endorsed, Saudi/Kuwaiti/Emirati-funded candidate as Secretary of State is a disater, and a horrendous betrayal of those who voted for him.
"just like Irish Americans have helped their Irish brethren in Ireland"
Prolonging a conflict about which they knew absolutely nothing, and which would otherwise have been resolved decades before. Thanks to them, a gang of Marxist bank-robbers, drug-pushers and pimps is now permanently in government in Northern Ireland, in coalition with a bizarre fundamentalist sect.
"The same for Obama's pro-Israel strategist David Axelrod - the guy who is Obama's chief strategist and adviser, by the way"
Another betrayal.
"On top of that, what would be in it for the US to side against Israel? Arabs sell their oil to the US no matter what."
So there's nothing in it for the US to side with Israel, either. It need not concern itself. Of course, like the rest of us, it urgently needs to wean itself off imported oil, anyway.
"stood up to the Arabs and reminded them that if no oil was sold to the US, Arabs would starve"
"Stood up to the Arabs"? By spending the next thirty years selling your economy and political machines to them lock, stock and (as it were) barrel? The Gulf monarchs aren't anti-Israeli in anything more than a rhetorical sense. They and AIPAC even run joint American Presidential candidates, and they refuse point blank to help the Palestinians in any way, shape or form. Arabs from the Peninsula regard Levantines as impure and riff-raff.
"And, it would drive Israel into the hands of the Chinese or, perhaps, the Russians."
Who would never have anything to do with them. And you do realise that the Cold War is over, don't you?
"Your country has placed itself at the mercy of Arab whim."
No, that is your country, and mine while we remain at the mercy of yours.
"The US does not have an angry Arab or Muslim population that attempts to force its will on the US government."
Not yet. The muzzein's call now echoes around Harvard Square. And if the British Government can be forced to do anything by Arabs or Muslims, then the ones in Britain certainly haven't noticed, to say the very least.