Vladimir Putin sought out an Ecuadorian dart frog so as to extract its epibatidine and administer it to a man who was already in prison? Who writes this rubbish? Alexei Navalny was already supposed to have survived novichok, but who hasn't? Novichok has killed, at most, one person ever, and that was an accident. On 12 March 2018, The Times announced that Sergei Skripal was dead. But on 18 May, he was discharged from hospital. Yulia had been discharged on 9 April. I wonder where they are now? I expect that we shall never know. And when is there going to be a Coroner's Inquest into the death of Dawn Sturgess? We are expected to accept that everyone involved in this plot either could not have afforded a gun, or did not know where to find one, or did not know how to use it. Those who believe these hallucinations walk among us. Those who knowingly spread these falsehoods rule over us and purportedly hold our rulers to account.
Following the Palestine Action ruling, Yvette Cooper should face action both for contempt of court and for contempt of Parliament. But even if she were a remotely credible figure, then how would Navalny be our problem? No one very much in Russia had ever heard of Navalny before, albeit under prison camp conditions, he dropped dead of natural causes as we fortysomethings sometimes do. Whereas we cockroaches survive. Yes, Navalny really did calls us that. In 2021, Amnesty International therefore revoked his status as a prisoner of conscience. He had no more claim to that than Stephen Yaxley-Lennon ever had, although he was never anywhere near as well-known in Russia as Yaxley-Lennon is in Britain even without living here.
Yaxley-Lennon has endorsed Matt Goodwin at Gorton and Denton, where Cooper's candidate has been endorsed by Vince Cable, apparently without affecting his membership of the Liberal Democrats. Yet Cable held an economic brief in Cabinet on every day of the Coalition that Keir Starmer denounced in response to Ed Davey at this week's Prime Minister's Questions. A vote for Labour is a vote for that, as well as for the only British party with a member on Donald Trump's Board of Peace. Throughout the Coalition of Austerity, the position of Chief Secretary to the Treasury was also held by a Lib Dem, and that was initially David Laws until he had to resign for having misclaimed £40,000 in expenses. He was soon back attending Cabinet, but only this site thought anything amiss. £40,000 was also the sum that Angela Rayner avoided in stamp duty, even before considering how much less was her transgression than anything to do with the Ambassadorial appointment of Peter Mandelson, who is still on the Privy Council, passing on its papers to who knows whom. If our rulers' professed inability to maintain Courtsdesk did not persuade you to resist digital ID and live facial recognition, then that fact certainly should.
Who else do you think poisoned him in a Russian penal colony and indeed poisoned and hospitalised gin the first time before he got there, you complete crank?
ReplyDeleteWe can all see who is the complete crank here.
DeleteIt is very easy for a State, any State, to kill someone whom it was already incarcerating, without having to go to any of this trouble. And where the hell did those "samples" come from?
The cranks such as Craig Murray never of course say who they think did poison Navalny twice (including while he was a political prisoner in a Russian penal colony) nor who poisoned the Skripals with novichok or indeed poisoned Alex Litvinenko with Polonium-210 on British soil who had just met two Russian agents.
ReplyDeleteIf they tried, they’d only succeed in looking even more absurd than they already do. Was it MI6 that poisoned him while in Russian custody and managed to get independent Western laboratories in on the plot? Lol, as they say.
Putin expects everyone to know he did it and to get the message without needing to admit it, that’s the whole point of dictators. That there’s a few people so laughable that they actually try and pretend otherwise must make him chuckle.
The Skripals are still alive. If Putin, or the GRU, or any of that lot, wanted you dead, then you would be dead. Not of some exotic poison that did not work, anyway. But of a bullet to the head.
DeleteLitvinenko may as well have had the word "dodgy" tattooed across his forehead. The likes of him and Boris Berezovsky should never have been allowed into this country, where their presence served only to endanger our own people. Still, the polonium thing is more than a little far-fetched. Though not to the extent of extracting something that grew only on the back of a rare South American amphibian.
They poisoned rather than openly shot Navalny to create at least plausible deniability, but they didn’t expect anyone to be stupid enough to actually believe they didn’t do it. This type of poison used was chosen because it doesn’t show up on normal toxicology screens, but it was shown to be present by independent laboratories in two countries (unless you think they were all in on the plot).
ReplyDeleteAnd Russian intelligence agencies never ever mess things up? What utter nonsense. The FSB has failed in plenty of hits, including its embarrassingly bad attempt on Zelensky at the beginning of the war. Litvinenko was Putin’s former FSB colleague who exposed his boss’s role in staging a series of false flag bombings against his own people in Moscow to attain the presidency at a time when he had 2% public support and was known as nothing more than a corrupt member of the hated Boris Yeltsin’s entourage. There’s no doubt who murdered him, Nemtzov, Polikovskaya, Prighozin, Navalny or any of the others.
Everyone in Russia knows perfectly well, and gets the message.
Next to no one in Russia had ever heard of him. You are mad.
Delete"Plausible deniability" like they'd care.
DeleteThese people are very, very silly.
DeleteThe conditions brought on a heart attack or something in the middle-aged Navalny, or he was bumped off in the quicker of the old-fashioned ways. But this? Pull the other one.
Navalny is buried in Moscow, yet the West claims to have body samples as if they just picked them up at the airport.
ReplyDeleteWithout Russian permission, how exactly?
And if Russia did allow it, why would they hand over evidence that could supposedly expose them?
Now we’re fed some absurd story about an exotic Ecuadorian frog poison that only Russia magically “has” and used.
This isn’t investigation, it’s fantasy.
It sounds like a rushed script written by people too lazy to make their accusations coherent, hoping outrage replaces logic and nobody bothers asking how any of it is supposed to work.
As I asked in the post, who writes this rubbish?
DeleteI think we can all see who is mad. At least the Russian propagandists know they’re lying in support of the Dear Leader but nobody sane actually believes Navalny, 43, just suddenly keeled over and died on a walk in his Russian penal colony months after being poisoned by the regime that imprisoned him.
ReplyDelete“Next to no one in Russia has ever heard of him.” That must be why his anti-corruption documentaries had millions of views in Russia and there were massive protests in support of him.
The regime certainly thought he was important enough to jail and murder him.
You do not have to be important to be sent to prison, middle-aged men routinely "keel over and die on a walk" even in much less arduous conditions, and the demonstrations, even leaving aside the fact that they were able to be held, were tiny expressions of a heavily Westernised subculture, representative of nothing at all.
DeleteThe patients really have been let out on the computer for the night, I see. Navalny just keeled over and died aged 43 in a Russian penal colony months after being hospitalised and found to have Novichok in his system.
ReplyDeleteIndependent laboratories confirmed both that poisoning and this one. The embarrassing cranks in these comments prefer to believe Vladimir Putin rather than respected independent laboratories in law-governed Western democracies.
The patients need to go to bed.
"Navalny just keeled over and died aged 43 in a Russian penal colony"? That is more than believable.
DeleteWhere did these samples come from? And why on God's green Earth would Putin have gone to this much trouble to kill anyone? There are much simpler ways of doing it. Do you think that he cares what Yvette Cooper thinks?
“” As I asked in the post, who writes this rubbish?””
ReplyDeleteI presume it’s you writing your blog? To a mad crank, the Russian state is a more reliable driver than independent laboratories in law-governed Western democracies, all of whom confirmed both poisonings.
As I say, at least the likes of Murray never dare hazard a guess as to who they think is responsible (was it “the Deep State” or the lizards?) as they know they’d just sound even more ridiculous than they already do.
The nearest thing to lizards here are your Ecuadorian dart frogs. Apparently, their role is more plausible than either that Navalny was shot, or banged on the head, or what have you, or that a middle-aged man in a Siberian prison camp had a heart attack.
DeleteYes, Navalny was the Tommy Robinson of Russia. He had a history as a far right nationalist who led a party of opposition with a high Western profile but little internal support. In fact the Russian Communist Party has most recently been the largest party of opposition to United Russia.
ReplyDeleteYou and I just sit tight and wait to be proved right. Again.
Delete“ Apparently, their role is more plausible than either that Navalny was shot, or banged on the head, or what have you, or that a middle-aged man in a Siberian prison camp had a heart attack.”
ReplyDeleteWhat a ridiculous comment-it is illegal even under Russian law for the authorities to just shoot political prisoners in jail so obviously they weren’t going to make it that obvious- Putin would be admitting to being a criminal to the whole world, prosecutable under his own law. Everyone still knows they did it (even more so now) so it still sends out the required message.
He was a fit and healthy 43-year-old who suddenly died just as he had predicted he would. And is now found to have had poison in his system-after having been hospitalised by a proven poisoning in Germany (was that all a plot involving the German hospitals and the laboratories too?)
What an amazing coincidence, Lindsay. It must be the lizards.
"Putin would be admitting to being a criminal to the whole world, prosecutable under his own law," as if he would care, and as if that would happen. You silly little boy.
DeleteWestern intelligence agencies can determine that Navalny's death was caused by Ecuadorian dart frog poison without having access to the body in Russia, but they just can't seem to figure out who blew up Nord Stream, or anything about Epstein. Conveniently announced at the Munich Security Conference.
ReplyDeleteThat gathering of those who strike fear into the heart of Vladimir Putin.
DeleteI can’t claim to know toxicology well but this is so absurd that I had to go check if I was remembering the basics correctly. Turns out it isn’t just absurd, it’s insanely sloppy and actually quite hilarious. Of all the things to pick, why pick something so implausible.
ReplyDeleteFirst, I checked what his circle claimed to be his symptomatology in 2024. The most prominent reported symptom in his final hours was sharp, severe abdominal pain plus vomiting and collapse. Epibatidine’s defining property is extreme analgesia, 100–200× more potent than morphine. It binds to neuronal nicotinic receptors (α4β2 subtype) to produce profound pain suppression and full-body numbness. Victims would become insensitive to pain, not hypersensitive. No literature in either animal or analog studies describes acute gastrointestinal agony as a hallmark. If anything, early nicotinic stimulation might cause mild nausea salivation, but the dominant effect is pain erasure. A dying victim screaming from stomach pain is the opposite of what epibatidine does.
This is boring but important, natural occurrence is actively disputed. Original 1970s samples yielded <1 mg from thousands of frogs; later collections from the same species found zero epibatidine. Apparently, frogs don’t synthesize it, they sequester it from wild diet in specific microhabitats. Captive or non-specific populations produce none. Harvesting a lethal dose (LD₅₀ ~2–14 μg/kg) naturally would require processing thousands of protected wild frogs from remote Ecuador. How would this be possible without anyone noticing? Framing it as frog poison is pure theatre.
Did they smuggle old post-mortem samples two years after death / cremation or was it earlier? Epibatidine is a small, non-persistent molecule. In vitro studies suggest it’s minimally metabolized, but no data exists on long-term stability in embalmed/cremated remains or degraded tissue. There is no precedent I could find for detecting epibatidine in any human poisoning, ever. Labs would have to extrapolate from rodent models and synthetic standards, how can they have “conclusive” proof?
Epibatidine has never been documented as a homicide agent. Why would Russia who supposedly has sophisticated domestic agents switch to an obscure, hyper-potent nicotinic agonist especially on a “high profile” prisoner? It’s a prison colony, I’m sure that there are far less complex options to cause a prisoner’s untimely demise. Also the poison frog experts (I didn’t know it was a thing lol) call it “very surprising” as a weapon choice, no military or intelligence program has ever pursued it.
Also, how did they pull off the logistics for administering this in a remote arctic colony? Did the FSB agents fly in with ready-made injections when drug trials failed to make any headway with synthetics for years? I can add another 10 “also”s but this seems like a good starting point.
Any toxicologists or poison frog experts feel like weighing in?
Not boring at all. Just important.
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