tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25656996.post9107255241776606347..comments2024-03-29T10:44:12.904+00:00Comments on David Lindsay: Will They Do It?David Lindsayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06839882674758833524noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25656996.post-22528531059509492722008-06-17T23:46:00.000+01:002008-06-17T23:46:00.000+01:00Here we go again with the overeducated posh thicki...Here we go again with the overeducated posh thickies (I don't normally allow them up, but I'm feeling indulgent this evening), whose arrogance and stupidity is quantifiable in dead bodies in Afghanistan and Iraq, and who, as much as anything else, never seem to grasp that hostility from them only adds to our appeal to the people about whom we care.<BR/><BR/>It really is not my fault if the Electoral Commission is also staffed by overeducated posh thickies. We shall see by Monday of next week whether or not it is.<BR/><BR/>Bring back grammar schools, and rid of this public nuissance.David Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06839882674758833524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25656996.post-89506700297372790492008-06-17T21:12:00.000+01:002008-06-17T21:12:00.000+01:00Grow a pair. Frit.Grow a pair. <BR/><BR/>Frit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25656996.post-3392632989219715962008-06-17T21:11:00.000+01:002008-06-17T21:11:00.000+01:00So when you say "endorsed" you're breaking yuour p...So when you say "endorsed" you're breaking yuour promise that the BPA will run candidates in every UK constituency.<BR/><BR/>Frit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25656996.post-22327587809565642052008-06-17T16:59:00.000+01:002008-06-17T16:59:00.000+01:00Of course the form itself is straightforward. The ...Of course the form itself is straightforward. The tactics of the Electoral Commission once they have received it, on the other hand...<BR/><BR/>Yes, J, I can't say that I wasn't warned. How many people know that an arm of government has to approve the name, aims and Leader of any given political party, and that on annual basis, in return for a fee? Just what sort of country has this become?David Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06839882674758833524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25656996.post-38302242326255363192008-06-17T16:55:00.000+01:002008-06-17T16:55:00.000+01:00Publishes all its findings? What planet are you li...Publishes all its findings? What planet are you living on?<BR/><BR/>Correct me if I'm wrong, David, but they are saying that the forms weren't filled in, or they never got them, or the fee wasn't paid, or something. So they can kill the thing without there having to be any "findings", just by grinding you down with repetitive paperwork.<BR/><BR/>They have done this at least half a dozen times to attempts to revive the more Methodist than Marxist wing of Old Labour. They seem to fear it more than anything else. "They" being really the three big parties and the European Commission.<BR/><BR/>We warned you, David. We warned you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25656996.post-5648006248551395112008-06-17T16:54:00.000+01:002008-06-17T16:54:00.000+01:00No, its just straightforward. I've looked at the f...No, its just straightforward. I've looked at the form. If I was a more paranoid man, I might think that you're almost preparing the ground for a rejection by the EC. Or even, possibly, that you never submitted the form at all. <BR/><BR/>As I say, if I was a more paranoid man.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25656996.post-90350768519408394692008-06-17T16:52:00.000+01:002008-06-17T16:52:00.000+01:00It's only straightforward if the Electoral Commiss...It's only straightforward if the Electoral Commission says yes.David Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06839882674758833524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25656996.post-59976664272999678102008-06-17T16:50:00.001+01:002008-06-17T16:50:00.001+01:00Having looked at the form, it seems very straightf...Having looked at the form, it seems very straightforward to register a political party, UKIP or otherwise. All you need is a party leader, an address, and a registered treasurer. That and £150, and Bob's your uncle.<BR/><BR/>It certanly would be very puzzling indeed if they did reject the BPA. David mentions initiatives in an earlier comment, which confuses me - surely this is just a straightforward party nomination? Of course, the Electoral Commission publishes all its findings, so if they do turn you down, we'll all know why. There will be no room for dissembling - on either side.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25656996.post-68963343917854907782008-06-17T16:50:00.000+01:002008-06-17T16:50:00.000+01:00Of course I don't name my sources, especially when...Of course I don't name my sources, especially when they are people whom I have known for many years. You can tell that the GCSE exams are over, with the likes of you popping up on blogs.<BR/><BR/>The Commission is indulged in what I was warned would be its standard procedure of demanding that the same forms be filled in over and over again (and, doubtless, that the same fee be paid over and over again) until people just get sick of it and go away.David Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06839882674758833524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25656996.post-7066003929117506692008-06-17T16:45:00.000+01:002008-06-17T16:45:00.000+01:00Oh I see. So it wasn't the electoral commission, b...Oh I see. So it wasn't the electoral commission, but merely "sitting MPs and Fleet Street types". Who of course, no doubt, you made solemn promises not to name, or publish the correspondence with the names blanked out.<BR/><BR/>Hmm. Bit difficult all this. But is it the case that the Electoral Commission *have* refused to register you, or not?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25656996.post-86118155636633339682008-06-17T16:42:00.000+01:002008-06-17T16:42:00.000+01:00No, of course not, you stupid little man. Can't yo...No, of course not, you stupid little man. Can't you read?<BR/><BR/>Bring back grammar schools and rid us of the likes of you.David Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06839882674758833524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25656996.post-61116498864756085022008-06-17T16:41:00.000+01:002008-06-17T16:41:00.000+01:00Really? The Electoral Commission sent you an offic...Really? The Electoral Commission sent you an official email confirming that the only reason UKIP was registered was because the EU doesn't treat them as a threat? And therefore confirming your (otherwise slightly paranoid) thesis that they register not on the basis of their clearly stated rules on their website, but in fact on the order of shadowy beings in senior parties here and in Brussels?<BR/><BR/>This is truly astonishing. If you are in possession of such a genuiine email, which does say this, then I expect to see it in every newspaper in the land. Or if not (perhaps they have been bought off by this suspicious cartel as well) then on all the large blogs. Maybe even on yours? (with names blanked out, of course)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25656996.post-52922887988418759162008-06-17T16:32:00.000+01:002008-06-17T16:32:00.000+01:00This is not by choice, and might not yet happen. I...This is not by choice, and might not yet happen. If it happens, then it will have been forced on us by the Electoral Commission.<BR/><BR/>As emails to me today from sitting MPs and Fleet Street types put it, the Electoral Commission has refused point blank to register initiatives of this type several times before (one of my correspondents had been planning to stun Labour by taking up a probable peerage on retirement in one such interest, but the Commission wouldn't have it), it never approves anything unless the three cartel parties agree that it is harmless from their point of view, and in any case it is subject to direction by the Commission that really matters, the European Commission.<BR/><BR/>On that last point, I did email back to ask how UKIP was ever registered, and received an almost immediate reply saying that that tells you all you need to know about how seriously the EU takes UKIP.David Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06839882674758833524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25656996.post-74824449524642295032008-06-17T16:23:00.000+01:002008-06-17T16:23:00.000+01:00But David, this makes you nothing more than a pres...But David, this makes you nothing more than a pressure group? For instance, I imagine that Amnesty International, Oxfam et al endorse candidates, but no one seriously claims them as a political party!<BR/><BR/>Is this really the best we can do?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25656996.post-60196692795798458102008-06-17T16:22:00.000+01:002008-06-17T16:22:00.000+01:00But with all due respect, this is not what you sai...But with all due respect, this is not what you said before. You made plain that you would be recruiting your own candidates, and standing on a BPA platform. This seems like a bit of a retractionAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25656996.post-67972712491919632062008-06-17T16:11:00.000+01:002008-06-17T16:11:00.000+01:00We'd publish a list, based on their publicly state...We'd publish a list, based on their publicly stated views. If they didn't wnat the votes of our people (and that despite agreeing with su enough for us to endorse them), then I suppose that they could say so. But I don't really think that that would happen.David Lindsayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06839882674758833524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25656996.post-37448054594479354182008-06-17T09:09:00.000+01:002008-06-17T09:09:00.000+01:00When you say "endorsed" do you mean people who are...When you say "endorsed" do you mean people who are willing to stand up and say that they are BPA candidates or candidates who are not standing as BPA candidates but who you claim are endorsed...like Davis? This is a genuine question from a genuine supporter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com